Agave franzosinii striata

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Agave franzosinii striata

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Is an amazing plant my friend.
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Mine is still small.....would love to see it growing big :D
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Got another one...
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Comparing this agave with the specie A. franzosinii (viewtopic.php?t=180), I see a mark difference in the size, form, leaf shape, terminal and marginal spines etc. The two look different agaves in all respect. Is this really a striata version of A. franzosinii??
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RCDS66 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:37 am Comparing this agave with the specie A. franzosinii (viewtopic.php?t=180), I see a mark difference in the size, form, leaf shape, terminal and marginal spines etc. The two look different agaves in all respect. Is this really a striata version of A. franzosinii??
Thanks
I doubt it will be much help to you, but I have a franzosinii (non-variegated) that I was unsure about its ID because it was putting out pups. I bought it from one of the shops that was selling at a cactus and succulent society sale out in California last year. I would hope it was a correct ID, but the more I follow the plant world the more I see you can't always trust IDs. Anyway, I saw gafoto mention that under-potting can cause them to make more pups and it was in a small pot for how quickly it had grown, so maybe that was it. But I have an americana that is a little older, little larger, and was in a much larger pot right next to my franzosinii that I compare it to. The franzosinii (assuming that is correct ID) started growing earlier in the season, grew faster, has longer and narrower leaves at this age, and much more silvery color (before the crepe myrtles started raining sap or whatever on them). I don't know if any of that is useful or if you have a similar variegated americana you can compare it to, but figured I'd share on the slight chance it provided anything.

Additionally, I haven't been yet but on the Lotus Land website their larger franzosiniis don't get as floppy as a some of those shown in the gallery here, so maybe there is some decent variety in them? I haven't looked close enough into the spines and all as you mentioned, but it seems most of them are a little more silvery? But also most of them aren't variegated. I don't know. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will chime in.
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nsp88 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 12:41 pm
RCDS66 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:37 am Comparing this agave with the specie A. franzosinii (viewtopic.php?t=180), I see a mark difference in the size, form, leaf shape, terminal and marginal spines etc. The two look different agaves in all respect. Is this really a striata version of A. franzosinii??
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I doubt it will be much help to you, but I have a franzosinii (non-variegated) that I was unsure about its ID because it was putting out pups. I bought it from one of the shops that was selling at a cactus and succulent society sale out in California last year. I would hope it was a correct ID, but the more I follow the plant world the more I see you can't always trust IDs. Anyway, I saw gafoto mention that under-potting can cause them to make more pups and it was in a small pot for how quickly it had grown, so maybe that was it. But I have an americana that is a little older, little larger, and was in a much larger pot right next to my franzosinii that I compare it to. The franzosinii (assuming that is correct ID) started growing earlier in the season, grew faster, has longer and narrower leaves at this age, and much more silvery color (before the crepe myrtles started raining sap or whatever on them). I don't know if any of that is useful or if you have a similar variegated americana you can compare it to, but figured I'd share on the slight chance it provided anything.

Additionally, I haven't been yet but on the Lotus Land website their larger franzosiniis don't get as floppy as a some of those shown in the gallery here, so maybe there is some decent variety in them? I haven't looked close enough into the spines and all as you mentioned, but it seems most of them are a little more silvery? But also most of them aren't variegated. I don't know. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will chime in.
Thanks for a detailed reply nsp88. :U
Now here is the latest photo of the my plant, taken today. The plant is in a 10" pot (not sure in gallons what would be the pot size like!!). I agree that the size of the agave and the leaf shade may differ due to growing conditions. However, the overall growth pattern, the shape of terminal and marginal spines etc in a variegated cultivar should not differ drastically from original species in my view. To me, it looks more like a variegated form of A. asperrima but I have limited understanding and knowledge of agaves and would really like experts to chip in with their input.
Thanks :U
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